An Interview with Betty (Andreasson) Luca
by Brent Raynes
Highly respected and one of the better known UFO “abductees,” the subject of five books by the distinguished Raymond E. Fowler, Betty Ann (Andreasson) Luca answers our questions. Furthermore, I suspect we’ll be hearing much more about Betty in the near future. She mentioned that the situation for her and her husband Bob is still ongoing, and that much of the information she received and collected from the Beings over the years has been given careful study, and that two researchers in particular have recently managed to “decipher part of the work, and uncover some very profound and important revelations.” In addition, in early December 2005 Betty will speak at the ARE’s first annual UFO Conference in Virginia Beach, VA. (See details elsewhere in this issue)
Editor: Initially, back in 1967, you and members of your family suffered a very disturbing series of memories revolving around a certain experience that happened at your home in South Ashburnham, Massachusetts. For a good number of years afterwards you tried to interest someone in the UFO community to look into what had occurred, but it wasn’t until a team of investigators headed by Raymond E. Fowler that your situation got serious attention, correct? Can you describe what those early years was like, and the effect that it had on you and your family?
Betty Ann Luca: When my 1967 UFO encounter happened, only a small portion of memory was attained at the time by me, even though other members of my family were present such as my father, mother and seven children. However, three days after the experience, my eleven year old daughter Becky came to me concerning short dreams she was having of the unusual Beings in our house. Many years later my father had recall of the initial visit from the Beings, but had not wanted to get involved and was concerned for my welfare over me telling others about it. He was on Disability and feared the government would hurt him somehow through his Social Security.
This is how my UFO experience actually came to be public. There was a Von Daniken article in the rag- tag paper called The Enquirer. In it he was reporting about ancient crafts. I was moved to write a letter to the newspaper about Von Daniken’s story, and the Enquirer sent my letter back and stamped it in red, UFO! Which surprised me for I knew nothing about UFOs. Then a few years later an article appeared in a local newspaper asking anyone that had a sighting to contact a Dr. Hynek of CUFOS, Center for UFO Studies. I remembered the red stamped ufo on my return letter from the Enquirer and thought to send him everything I had remembered of my odd experience. So I sent the information I remembered of the silence, the blinking orange red lights outside the pantry window, and description of the Beings coming into my kitchen. Dr. Hynek filed my letter away for two years until a Massachusetts volunteer group of researchers wanting to study any humanoid UFO case in their area, contacted CUFOS and requested if there were any such cases. That’s when he sent my letter and address to them. I was contacted by Jules Vailencourt by telephone, and he later visited us to see if we were willing to find out what happened. And that’s how it all began. Jules would drive us to Beverly, to the hypnotist’s office. We were questioned concerning what we remembered, then Dr. Edlestien hypnotized us, and after each session we were questioned some more. Each session was about an hour or more and by the time we returned home we were exhausted and at times had to take a nap from the long day. At times I was left in subliminal hypnosis and through the week began to have very strong flash backs occur. Which scared me! I wanted to quit and expressed it over the phone to Jules. He pleaded with me to please continue. That others had experienced things that I had happen. Because the memories I was remembering seemed like science fiction, I asked if there was any way it could be checked or verified, to see if I was imagining, lying, or going insane from the detailed experience flooding my mind. If so I would need help! This opened the door for lie detector tests to be used on both my daughter and I, and spontaneous psychiatric checks to take place. Which made the investigators happy, for they wanted to do this, but did not know how to approach the issue without adding more stress to the situation of what happened to us.
Later when the Andreasson Affair was published there was a whirlwind of media coverage! It was exceptionally frantic when Raymond Fowler, my new husband Bob, and I had to promote the A.A. book on radio and television, and newspaper/magazine interviews across the country. All the attention was scarey. I was somewhat shy, and didn’t like to be known as the lady who had a weird thing happen to her! In the earlier years after I had sent the letter to Dr. Hynek I felt relieved and everything returned to normal family life. We had a mini farm with Molly our cow, calves, pigs and chickens and large garden to care for, besides seven children and my first husband’s father who’d had a stroke and was living with us. And then after an anniversary party, my now ex-husband had too much to drink, was incarcerated over night and disappeared the next day for many months. That was when the investigation of my case began, and some months later my two sons died in an automobile accident.
Editor: As the hypnotic exploration continued, repressed memories that extended back to childhood events were also recovered. There were certainly many startling revelations. Ray Fowler even began to recognize symptoms of the UFO abduction experience within himself and his own family. How did this evolving situation change things for you?
Betty Ann Luca: Yes, Dr. Edelstien tried to take me back to a childhood experience. And did break through to an area that was dark. It was silent and three gray forms stood motionless in a misty darkness. I became extremely fearful over what I saw. Dr. Edelstein quickly pulled me out of hypnosis, and did not want to pursue the experience any further than what had been recalled, due to such a strong emotional response from me at the time. It would be many years later that hypnotist Fred Max would manage to take me safely back to my childhood encounters with the grey Beings. As Ray Fowler began to recall his and his families own UFO experiences, he wanted to delve deeper into the repressed memories, however his wife was not comfortable with it. For she also had witnessed disturbing and unusual things take place with Ray. Ray tried to comfort her misgivings concerning the possibility of family involvement with the phenomena. Just knowing she was fearful for her families safety, I felt uncomfortable each time I had to call Ray and report another unusual experience happening to us.
Editor: Now, all of these years later, where have the memories and revelations taken you?
Betty Ann Luca: After all the experiences, exposure, and integration of this other dimension of reality, I feel more aware of life, its complexities, and how like a river it flows calmly onward to awaken the human race toward spiritual harmony.
Editor: What do you possibly foresee as the future for humankind with regards to the ongoing UFO contact phenomenon?
Betty Ann Luca: The more we learn of the unknown the greater understanding of who we are emerges. Facing new and unusual experiences enhances our spiritual development. Why, and what for, such contact takes place, may open a door to greater knowledge of the hidden world that surrounds us. Man is resilient and can survive as long as he recognizes there are certain forces that exist, that may or may not be controlled, whether physical or spiritual, good or bad. They rest in God’s hands, whose Will is greater than ours.
Editor: What role do you feel that your Christian faith has played in your rising above the initial trauma of the 1967 “abduction” and the positive spiritual level which you’ve arrived at since?
Betty Ann Luca: My Christian belief is and has been the most important thing in my life, since I was sixteen, when I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior. I believed the Beings I experienced to be angelic. Although the 1967 encounter was strange, and the grey Beings were not as I envisioned an angel to look like. It did not frighten me when they entered my home. For I knew and know I am in the Lord’s care. I was at a positive level back then, and it has been enhanced now for many years. First, through belief in the word of God. Second from all the visitations. And third seeing most all the information the Beings have related to me has been coming to pass.
Editor: Do you think that the UFO phenomenon can be adequately addressed as a physical hard “nuts and bolts”science alone, or do you feel that spirituality must also be included in this quest?
Betty Ann Luca: No, I don’t think the UFO phenomenon can be adequately addressed alone as physical hard “nuts and bolts” science. When God made heaven and earth it was first spiritually made. Heaven and earth was spirit. But it was without a form and was void. There was actually no visible form and it was empty. It was only after the spiritual image was created that a physical form followed which was filled with substance to complete the work. When we see the “nuts and bolts,” we are looking at the forms without realizing it exists because of Spirit. Nothing can exist until it is spirit. The spiritual part of the UFO phenomena is not considered because we look at the material form only. The spirit rests within the finished product. Faith is spiritual. As the scripture says, faith is the substance hoped for, the evidence not seen. Faith is the power of spirit that creates form and substance into existence. Anything that has become was first spirit, thought, word, or idea. Most definitely, in order to understand the UFO phenomenon, spirituality must be present.